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inc., thank as a always for coming on the show tonight. >> thanks. smith that's "viewpoint" for tonight. have a great evening. see you tomorrow. >> jennifer: i'm jennifer grandholm tonight in "the war room" a one-hour therapy session for weary progressives. all right. let's get a grip, i know between the polls and that formatted political discussion which shall not be mentioned, buck up. seriously the next good idea either of them have will be their first. we have the better candidates the better issues, heck we even better signs. let's settle down and remember
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who we are dealing with. >> big bird. >> big bird. >> big bird. >> it's me big bird. [♪ theme music ♪] >> jennifer: all right. mitt romney is still riding high off of his debate performance last week, a rash of new polls confirming that the momentum is really in his favor. seven new polls show the race has gotten extremely tight. and this coming after a pew pole yesterday which left some democrats pretty shaken up myself included. showed romney up by a full four points. the numbers both campaigns are really going to be looking at are the ones coming out of the swing states. both candidates are trail, and ohio, the picture
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there has changed as well. the president leads in ohio by just barely, by four points. he was up to eight points last week. et too, ohio? and they are tied in nevada at 47, in colorado romney has a four-point lead, in pennsylvania where the president had a 12 point lead three weeks ago, he now released by just three points. so how concerned should we be? well, before we all have a collective panic attack let's turn to the great nate silver. the "new york times" polling guru who last time around correctly predicting 49 out of 50 states. he the president still has at 71.4% chance of winning.
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the president's reelection still looks like a very good chance. here to talk about how to get our mojo back is the house minority leader, nancy pelosi. thank you so much for coming back. how bad is it? >> we don't agonize we organize. >> jennifer: that's what i'm talking about. >> get out there and fight. i notice what the polls talk about are the likely voters. in ohio it's four points amongst likely voters, and ten points among registered points. >> jennifer: so that speaks to the ground game right. >> that's right. [ laughter ] >> neighborhood by neighborhood precinct by precinct, district by district to just pull out that vote.
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>> jennifer: let's talk about your impression of this. last night the president was here in san francisco at a fund raiser, and he has been doing an awful lot of that. the fund raiser -- the president has held more fund raisers than the previous five presidents combined. he has had to do one fund raiser every 61 hours. what kind of a toll do you think that takes on somebody? >> someone who has a day job of being the most powerful person in the world it's a big toll. and that's why i have to dare to reduce the amount of money, overturn citizens united's let reform. disclose on barack obama on i approve this message. we have to say it, but mr. big bucks with hundreds of millions of dollars in the campaign they
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go anonymously. >> jennifer: right these candidates -- these campaigns become more and more difficult because of the amount of money out there required to be raised and obviously we all want to see citizens united overturned. you know the president really well obviously. and you know what a competitor he is. how do you account for what happened the other night. >> i was in the room and it was more even. i thought it was okay. i thought he got the ball over the net, and it was okay but then when i left to go speak to a rally, and saw a debate watch party's mood i realized something was different. but you know what that was then, this is now. we have to go to use the president's word, forward. i'm very confident biden
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will do a good job. >> jennifer: talk about that. you obviously know paul ryan well. >> i don't know him well but i know about him. but i would say one word to the biden women. women. talking about affordable health care lilly ledbetter equal pay, i really think the divide among single women for the president is like 25 30 points and we have to have married women in that category as well, but i think it's really important. joe biden has been a champion when he served as chair of the judiciary committee, we was the author of the violence against women act, which paul ryan voted against. whether it's a women's right to choose, paul ryan is exactly
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like todd akin in terms of forcible rate, and no abortion even if the life of the mother is at steak. he is very extreme on those issues, and people have to know that. >> jennifer: that's interesting, because the gender gap closed in a few of these polls that we saw nationwide, and perhaps it was because that issue was not raised at all in the debate. this gives an opportunity for the vice president to really show their side for what they really. you actually were raised in the debate, as you were sitting there listening to mitt romney. i want to play just that sound bite. >> romney: first of all, i like the way we did it in massachusetts. we had republicans and democrats come together and work together. what you did instead was to push through a plan without a single republican vote, instead of
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bringing america together, you pushed through something that you and nancy pelosi and harry reid felt was the best answer and drove it through. >> jennifer: you are sitting there listening to that. >> uh-huh. it fits comfortably among his other misrepresentations. we went through three committees, the president offered about 100 amendments some were accepted, some were rejected. the republicans made the decision they were not going to vote for the bill no matter what it was. we had a very diverse caucus we had to weave a very careful cloth of what we were doing how it would impact different regions of the country, and
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either he didn't know or didn't care to say such a thing. but as i say it was appropriate, because three times he misrepresented about medicare, the $700 billion -- >> jennifer: oh, yeah. >> it was almost biblical. >> jennifer: i think there were even a couple of more in there -- >> and the fact is this is something we have to fight, because if these people win medicare as we know it will be gone. that is what is in their budget and what they voted for six times the ryan budget, and that's on the ballot. >> jennifer: so he says as well as -- you know, as the affordable care act is on the bat -- ballot as well. you have president romney, i know you have discounted that possibility, but he keeps
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saying, it is the first thing he repeals what does the house democratic caucus do? >> we believe -- it wasn't everything i wanted. this was a compromise which really captured as the president indicated the individual mandate, which was a republican initiative, which was the exchanges, which were republican initiatives, so he would be rejecting what he had himself put forth in massachusetts, but i say, again, he is not going to be president, but nonetheless i would be something that i think has to be taken to the public. there is a great deal at risk for them to lose the affordable care act. >> jennifer: there is a lot of discussion even with romney himself saying he would sit down with the leaders to try to forge compromise, is there anything in what he has said that would lead you to believe that would be a
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successful outreach? >> i think every should do that. but this speculation is so remote. the president is going to win. four weeks from today we will have the election four weeks from tomorrow morning, we'll have no regrets. if there's anything that came out of the debate, it was to say that we all have to do everything in our power to make sure the president wins and the senate holds and perhaps grows in numbers, and that we win the house and in doing so, send a clear message. because if there is validation of their position it will take us to a period before lyndon johnson on medicare, and how that effects seniors and their families, and their financial well-being. >> jennifer: i tomed told you guys this would be a therapy session. you heard it here. the president is going to win reelection, fear not. but that doesn't mean you sit on
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your laurels. >> no. >> jennifer: we have act and organize. just a word quickly about the vice president. some people have been making noise that they are concerned about gaffes being said at the debate. you are not concerned about any of that? >> it amazing me when people get so concerned about a gaffe, when in denver all we heard was misrepresentations, some people would call them lies. i think that's set the president back a bit. but also that he either doesn't know the facts or has decided to ignore them, so to make a big deal out of a gaffe, we could make a big deal out of the deception. >> jennifer: all right. democratic leader, nancy pelosi,
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and up reflect it's not the championship fight but the vice president debates do tend to provide more knockdowns. >> senator you are no ted kennedy. >> jennifer: seriously that never gets old. any more boxing metaphors. let myth be mitt is the battle try, and later from the absurd to the just plain ridiculous, the latest on big it's go time. it's go time. it's go time. go time. you know what time it is. go time. it's go time. it's go time. what time is it rob? here comes the young turks go time! it's go time. oh is it? then it's go. go. go. go. go. go. go. go time.
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we're getting closer and closer to victory, and it would be a travesty if we quit now in iraq. >> senator? >> with all do respect, barack obama has offered a clear plan ship responsibility to the iraqis over the next 16 months draw down our combat troops. >> jennifer: well that was then delaware senator debating then alaska governor, sarah palin in october 2008 and prior to their
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faceoff a lot of pundits predicted we would have a gaffe moment. but they were wrong. the self proclaimed young went of the republican party is a poll wonk. but he is a very likable guy. and coming to us tonight with a preview of romney versus ryan is kiki mcclain. welcome back inside "the war room." >> glad to be here governor. >> jennifer: all right. i am predicting we'll see a different strategy from joe biden in this debate, do you agree? >> yeah, i do, and i think it has to do with both personality and the role the vice president plays. the game is not to just beat up each other and see who coming
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outstanding, success will be the team that moves their candidate's message and that's joe biden's job. and feel free to drive that wedge between the truth and what mr. ryan has to say. >> jennifer: i think there are a lot of wedges or air that can be exposed between, for example, paul ryan and mitt romney. paul ryan's budget, huge opportunity, and of course the lies that paul ryan himself has uttered like in his convention speech. biden is not going to sit back and take that i assume. >> no, i don't think so. and i think people will be watching for daylight between paul ryan and mitt romney. paul ryan not wanting to drag his own career down with this guy who has been kind of on the losingen of the stick. we saw that happen with mccain
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and palin, right. somebody wanting to make their own career at the expense of someone else's. but joe biden is a thoughtful man, an experienced leader and he is committed to his partner in this, president obama. here is the other thing, joe biden is a heck of a story teller. his gaffes come with a lot of affection, because they are usually in the telling of a really important human story. >> jennifer: i agree with you. but do you go along with the convention wisdom that this debate matters so much more in light of the president's less than stellar performance at last week's debate? >> no, i don't at all. any light that it shines on particular policy differences, because at the end of the day we know there's a real choice to be made between these two
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campaigns, one fighting to grow the middle class and one that wants to go back to the way it was before that kind of got us in this mess in theplace. this is not a make or break deal, but it is a very important conversation. and vice president biden has a really important role. and frankly i think mr. ryan is going to have a lot of explaining to do. >> jennifer: i think he is too. i, like so many other progressives want to see joe take the gloves off and not just stand by when a falsehood is uttered. that's a lot you have got to roll into one debate. a lot of complex issues that you have to navigate to be successful. i want to play you a sound bite where a michigan reporter asked
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paul ryan how to drop crime in the cities when there will be tax cuts. >> those are your words not mine. >> thank you very much sir. >> yeah. >> that was kind of strange, put words in people's mouths. >> jennifer: to put this in context, he is being asked in flint, michigan which has a huge crime problem and has been under a emergency financial manager, so a reporter asks are tax cuts basically going to resolve the crime issues? paul ryan did not want to be asked that question. he does not want to be put on the spot. so that's maybe just one window on what his response will be when he is pressed. >> you can't be a global leader and be a successful one with thin skin. leadership means not taking it
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personally, but dealing with the real issues. the question that reporting asked was about the quality of people's lives right there in flint, michigan, and the vice presidential wanna be was willing to address that. and when people show that side of themselves their leadership potential gets smaller and smaller. >> jennifer: i agree you talked about the difference between these two candidates -- between the two races, really, the two tickets. both vice president biden and congressman paul ryan can be policy wonks and there might be a chance this could delve into a boring college lecture when really i believe what people want to hear is a vision. do you have a worry that that's in fact what is going to happen? is that it is going to be too wonkey?
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>> i don't because of who joe biden is. one of the great things about joe biden is his feel for working-class americans. and he has always been behind the work he has done. he great intellectual, he really understands policy. it's why the president values him so but this is the guy who knows the street he knows what it is like to be in the neighborhoods, so i expect to have a real conversation with him as a viewer about what that policy means every day in our lives. >> jennifer: last question just real quickly, do you think the ryan advisors are worried about the foreign policy aspect of the debate, which is an area that paul ryan doesn't have a lot of experience in? >> if they aren't they should be, because it is certainly something that vice president bide biden has great deal of
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expertise in. and one of the most compelling wants or needs in a president is their ability to step immediately into those shoes moving forward. if you look back at some of our most successful vice presidents vice president gore who was fact very well schooled in foreign policy issues when he joined up with then governor clinton on that ticket. that's an importants a tribute. >> jennifer: one thing he is disciplined, and my guess is he is boning up on every bit of foreign policy that he can. kiki thank you to suchmor joining us inside "the war room." up next how is mitt romney's momentum, and i really hate even saying that -- how is that momentum translating in swing states? (vo) what is said here could decide the election. current tv presents coverage of the vice presidential debate. with
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cu >> jennifer: you're back inside "the war room," i'm jennifer grandholm. both president obama and governor romney are pulling out all of the stops to win colorado's nine electoral votes. the latest poll from american research group has romney leading 50% to 46%. last month the same survey had
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obama leading. so here is david sirota who is author of "back to our future," and cohost of a radio show. and he really knows what people are saying and things. welcome back inside "the war room." >> thanks for having me. >> jennifer: president obama was doing great until the debate in denver. what did you folks do to our president? >> i think this race was always fluid out here in colorado. there is a huge number of latino voters in this state, and mitt romney is doing terribly among latino voters. i think this will be definitely a turnout election. it is going to be a 2008 turnout or '2010 turnout, and what does
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that actually look like, and it's really anybody's guess right now. and i would say this, one thing that i think democrats can be -- can feel good about is that senator michael bennett was actually ail to win a closely contested u.s. senate seat in 2010? a bad year for democrats nationally. so colorado is hard to predict. >> jennifer: what are you hearing? what does it look like on the ground? are democrats organized? does it seem like they have their act together? >> the way i perceive it is the democrats campaigns are much more organized. but it is an uphill climb because the economy is so tough. it's an uphill climb especially after the debate there was extra local attention on that debate. there was so much residual coverage of that in the local
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media here that president obama's performance and mitt romney's performance played an especially huge role. >> jennifer: you think because of the local coverage coupled with the national coverage you got really saturated? >> that's absolutely right. it wasn't just the national story, it was local radio and television, and there was a before and after on all of this. >> jennifer: there still is. we're still talking about it too. so tell us about the mood of the conservative -- i know you have a radio show where you have a lot of conservative listeners so i assume they are feeling their oats for mitt romney? feeling really good? >> here is what is worrisome, i sense that the enthusiasm is on
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romney's side. the organization is on the democratic side, but there is a lot of enthusiasm, not necessarily for mitt romney but for the idea that mitt romney can defeat president obama. i feel like there are a lot of conservative voters in this state who simply want to vote against obama not necessarily for romney. whereas before they didn't see romney as a possible victor and now seeing that he could win, i think there is an up surge in energy on that side. >> jennifer: one of the things that has familiar nated me about colorado is the new clean energy, and of course that also includes natural gas. do you think that romney's position -- virtually being silent on renewables is something that will find it's a way into the ethos there or do
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people just not care? >> you have many democratic leaders, including the governor who is a very popular politician saying something similar to drill baby drill. [ overlapping speakers ] >> then president's obama position on renewables doesn't become as politically and mitt romney is doing rurals throughout the state saying essentially drill baby drill. >> jennifer: but when you say drill baby drill, you are talking about natural gas as well, frac baby, frac right? >> that's right. >> jennifer: and of course a lot of democrats have embraced natural gas as -- certainly cleaner than the alternative. but we're showing right now,
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video of mitt romney campaigning with football legend and colorado hero john elway. which group of voters does elway appeal most? white male? >> i would say that john elway voters. it helps raise awareness for romney. elway is not known as a very political guy, so it's not like mitt romney is gaining the endorsement of a political constituency. but he is having his picture taken with one of the most popular people in the state and that has got to help. >> jennifer: i would think it would. thank you for joining us david.
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killing big bird in the debate. >> big yellow a menace to our economy, mitt romney knows it's not wall street you have to worry about, it's sesame street. >> i'm going to stop the subsidy to pbs. >> mitt romney taking on our enemies no matter where nay nest. >> jennifer: joining me from los angeles is current tv's always outspoking stephanie miller. "talking liberally" can be seen each weekend morning at 9:00 eastern, pacific. and here inside our "war room" is strategist donnie fowler. let me start with donnie. donnie, the big bird thing, with all of its problems why would
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the obama campaign make an ad about big bird. >> i don't know. it is the hottest thing on facebook right now. >> jennifer: it is funny. >> it is hilarious, but other people are funnier than politicians usually. >> jennifer: like stephanie miller for example. stephanie, what -- you guys -- on your show this morning, maybe a little bit early, because what do you read is the mood among progressives from the ground? >> a lot of times, feel like a hostage negotiator, just stay calm. >> jennifer: it's a therapy session. >> we knew this was going to be a tight race, and that being said, but a lot of them are sort of all over the place, and, you
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know, the battlegrounds are still obviously going to be tight, so don't underestimate the big bird outrage out there, gov. >> if only five year olds could vote. >> jennifer: that's right. donnie one of the reasons being attributed to this swing is the humanizing of mitt romney that is being done by at least insiders are saying ann and tagg romney. apparently there was an intervention in the campaign. that they came in and shook it up and said just let mitt be mitt. >> you know, tagg is pretty good, his oldest is much better than mitt as coming across as human. so this important. what you really get when you add a son, daughter or spouse, is the campaign gets opportunity to go to more media markets, go to
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more states -- >> jennifer: because they become the new surrogates. >> yes. so when mitt romney is not in ohio, tagg romney is there. >> jennifer: for sure. but stephanie it looks like ann and tagg also had some impact behind the scenes on how mitt's stump speeches are rolling out, do you think it is that that caused the swing in the polls? >> i think it's the debate, and don't you love the idea gov that someone needs to be humanized, which puts out the idea that people thought he lacked that character. the anecdote that he told in the debate, is well, the president is a liar just like my five sons. >> jennifer: i know and that was being raised again today.
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>> there is a trust issue. it doesn't really matter what your issues are, until a voter wants to invite you home to have dinner with his family he is not going to listen to what you say. >> jennifer: go ahead. >> i would like to say one other thing about the debate i do have sympathy for the president in that this was such a -- just a stream of lies -- and it completely different candidate than he has been -- that he was preparing to debate that just changed his position based on complete untruths, so i think the president will be prepared next time. so the debate hurt him, but the game's not over yet. >> jennifer: that's right. and we want to talk to you guys about some of the action happening in the states but i have one quick thing to show
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you, stephanie, you may know david siegel there the documentary queen of versailles which documents the owner of west gate resorts. yesterday he sent an email saying . . . and today siegel told one of our producers that the email is legit. how do you rate that on the outrage scale? >> that seems to me illegal, immoral? somewhere in that area. it's certainly coercive >> a big fat temper tantrum. >> jennifer: yes and it is certainly is an indirect contribution to the romney campaign. all right.
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♪ >> jennifer: all right. the battle for the senate is heating up, republicans only need four seats, folks to reclaim the majority in the upper chamber. one seat democrats want to reclaim is republican scott brown in massachusetts. a new poll of likely today from wbur shows that brown has a three-point lead over warren, 48 to 45.
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that is within the margin of error, but the three previous polls showed that warren had a slight lead. >> a weak economy, elizabeth warren's solution? raise taxes on small business. over 17,000 jobs will be lost in massachusetts alone. >> jennifer: warren's staff tweeted that the ad ignores the fact and relies on a right-wing funded study. back with us are donnie fowler and stephanie miller from los angeles. let me start with you, johnny is. what is warren's next best move? >> to continue to brown with the national republican party, republicans in congress, and mitt romney.
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>> jennifer: yeah, i do too. stephanie, are you worried that the president's problems at least in the immediate could end up hurting these down-ticket races? >> yes, gov, but again, let's wait a second. i think we also showed the good job numbers, and as i say we have a debate and two more coming up. at least this is the firsted a he has done that did not attack her native american heritage. >> jennifer: speaking of good jobs numbers, bloomberg came out today and said that the debt was actually reduced, which is good news too. stephanie in missouri, another really important senate race obviously. todd akin, has apparently now raised a million dollars online since his infamous rape pregnancy comments, but he also
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told a newspaper that he did not support the lilly ledbetter fair pay act, or minimum wage shouldn't a moderator ask paul ryan and mitt romney whether they endorse their republican senate candidate in missouri, steph? >> absolutely. you know why you say that governor, because you are a very unlady like wild cat. >> you kill me. come on, you are merciless. >> yeah, they have got to ask those questions. they got to. >> jennifer: that is so funny. see now you have totally thrown me off of my game. >> sorry. >> jennifer: all right, donnie we also have virginia as a rate that everybody cares about, there is a new ppp survey which had tim kaine leading former republican senator george allen, 51, 44 percent, and ppp credits
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independents for helping boost kaine's lead. >> the number one rule in campaigns is no matter what the polls say you play like you are tied. so i can guarantee they are playing like the game is tied. it's fine. it might help them with fund-raising, but their strategy remains we near a tight race until election day. >> jennifer: steph if you had to pick one of these senate races that you are most concerned about, especially given what has hand over the past few days. >> interesting that you bring up elizabeth warren who i think is just fabulous. and that's one of the most
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agreous lies mitt romney said is oh, i'm always for regulation. no, you are not. and we need the kind of regulation that elizabeth warren has also espoused. >> jennifer: and she is go good at putting us all in here together. >> and scott brown watered down dodd frank because of all of the money he is taking from wall street. >> jennifer: exactly. stephanie miller and donnie fowler thank to you both for coming inside "the war room." and up next, brett ehrlich attempts to connect with the average voter. >> coming up if you think you can make up your mind based on (vo) cenk uygur is many things. >>oh really? >>tax cuts don't create jobs. the golden years as the the highest tax rates, and the
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highest amount of growth, and the highest amount of jobs. those are facts. >>"if you ever raise taxes on the rich, you're going to destroy our economy." not true!
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♪ >> jennifer: in our mitt moment today we go back to where we started, sesame street, and is the ads and means and jokes weren't enough, there is just something disturbing about the campaign for the most powerful person in the world coming down to pictures like this. four weeks left, everyone. it's going to get weird. all right.
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there's no use denying a huge influence on previously undecided voters, but according to brett ehrlich there is value in forcefully notifying these voters that they are making a huge mistake. shhhh, brett's talking now >> for all of you people who haven't been paying at attention to the presidential election, and have made up your mind based on but debate performance, you can't do that. i'm sorry. you just can't do that. this isn't some basketball game where you can tune in at the last two minutes and see who wins. it is like lost, and you are one of those peoples who tunes in to an episode at the end of the season, and things you can figure it out. well, you can't. you are going to ruin this election for me, i'm going to ruin lost for you.
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take it. now let me just explain what you missed before you switched the channel to honey boo boo or whatever. mitt romney is a severely conservative -- >> i like going to the store with my mom -- >> you cannot honey boo boo me. you want to watch something, how about this? i'm sorry i had to do that but that's what being informed is about, and i'm sorry it's a little more work than you would like it to be, but so is everything. we're going to do the work of being informed together, and there's no way you are going to get me to go away. ♪ >> jennifer: all right. someone is always in your "war room," check us out online at current.com/thewarroom.
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